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I don’t think the new system suits Reeves and Little as we seem to bypass midfield and have low percentage of possession as a result, in fact I’d say that’s why our away form has become so bad since the New Year too
23rd Apr 2024 09:53:49 
[86.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
DTB needs to become what an owner would normally have, a rep on the boards. We don't need as many people and we don't need th DTB for people to do their pet projects. They can do those without the DTB (I don't believe DLAG waited on the DTB before forming and the bond was started outside of the DTB). We just need a couple of people who are representing on the PLC board and are reporting back. Anything else can be done the same way as now but reports into the DTB not with seats on the DTB.
23rd Apr 2024 09:53:01 
[147.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
CW I think that is where we struggle generally. The players we have aren't consistent - otherwise we wouldn't have them. So when they dip the squad is still thin enough that we then struggle to keep up the performances. It's got to be why we have peaks and troughs rather than smooth runs of results.
23rd Apr 2024 09:50:53 
[147.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
Apparently Luke Garrard is one of the favourites for the vacant Stevenage job
23rd Apr 2024 09:36:16 
[86.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
scotty - have the T&Cs changed so that DT members have higher priority than seaon ticket holders (assuming I buy an ST and opt out)? The nuclear option is to switch to relying on my debenture to get my seat at matches.
23rd Apr 2024 09:35:37 
[212.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
My mate Jim was telling me that O’Toole was better than Little at Tranmere, O’Toole then proceeded to have a nightmare ended when he was red carded for a reckless foul!!! Both Reeves and Little have gone off the boil lately which is largely why we have missed out on the play offs
23rd Apr 2024 09:34:44 
[86.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
OI - The danger with your "Opt Out Go Up" approach is having funded the club you probably wouldn't be able to watch the team get promoted at Wembley as you'd be so far down (not even on) the priority list for tickets.
23rd Apr 2024 09:22:01 
[86.lo.gg.ed] 
scotty
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
RK - If you have an East Stand ST it is truly free. ST price frozen (early bird at least) and DT membership thrown in for nowt.
23rd Apr 2024 09:17:55 
[86.lo.gg.ed] 
scotty
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
Little is currently on a three year contract.
23rd Apr 2024 09:15:22 
[86.lo.gg.ed] 
scotty
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Nicander- I totally agree on the “need for proper process” point, but I think that the chance of that actually happening is negligible at present.
23rd Apr 2024 09:13:01 
[205.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
Little to go.
23rd Apr 2024 09:02:12 
[62.lo.gg.ed] 
keefy
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Christ, this is all tedious - anyone care to estimate odds on Little signing a new deal?
23rd Apr 2024 08:50:28 
[90.lo.gg.ed] 
nicander
I'm going slim to none, but happy to be surprised
Can I clarify I meant the DTB needs a reduction in membership, not the Trust as a whole?
23rd Apr 2024 08:49:45 
[90.lo.gg.ed] 
nicander
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
Thanks Nick. Er i think i understand!
23rd Apr 2024 08:49:24 
[81.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
Nick W - Whether some winding down of the DT is or isn't the right thing to do (bit of both, probably, it certainly needs substantial change and a reduction in membership), the hill I will die on is that it cannot be right to do any of that without a proper discussion, debate and vote of members on the direction of travel. Breaking it down into little pieces and then not having votes on them just makes them look evasive and/or being manipulated by the plc and/or up to no good.
23rd Apr 2024 08:47:30 
[90.lo.gg.ed] 
nicander
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
Away for a few days so I didn't see the SGM. Did they clarify what happens to the 'DTB subscription' when I opt out? If it stays with the club then I'm helping with the first team budget. "Opt out to go up!"
23rd Apr 2024 08:46:24 
[212.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
That’s what I have assumed (ie you pay for it even if you opt out), so not really free, more”included in the price of the ST whether you opt out or not”. To be fair I need to read the terms and conditions but even if you can opt out and not pay for the DT cost with the season ticket I don’t see the benefit of going to the extra hassle. To some extent what this will lay bare is that, standing back and looking at the structure from scratch, the DT is a slightly pointless body (ie we need it as a legal entity “box” to own the shares in the club but really it doesn’t need to do anything more and the sensible thing is to find some way of folding all of the governance into that of the club, like a normal company with a big shareholder).
23rd Apr 2024 08:42:06 
[205.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
I didn't know it was free until I read Kenty's post. By free, you mean they just add the £15/£30 to the ST price?
23rd Apr 2024 08:36:03 
[81.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
RK- why would you do that (ie turn down something free then elect to pay for it)? I must confess I haven’t really engaged with this (so this is a genuine question from me?) but what would be the benefit of buying DT membership directly rather than getting it bundled with the ST
23rd Apr 2024 08:26:34 
[205.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
Bit ridiculous that i get to vote on the minutes and accounts (legal reqs but who ever bothers) but not the membership scheme. Assume i can opt-out when i buy my ST, then buy as i normally do for £15 in Aug? Or is this wrong?
23rd Apr 2024 08:09:27 
[81.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
I would guess Marc Jones has the Squealer role in the Animal Farm spring revolution. I’d expect fan ownership propaganda to be cranked up, with central direction on how to vote on, say, 50%+1.
23rd Apr 2024 08:03:10 
[82.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
All this might be confusing to your average fan who just wanna watches some football. In conclusion: ST holders will now have Dons Trust membership included at no extra charge. For non ST-holders, the price of DT/DT+ membership has gone up by a fiver.
23rd Apr 2024 07:54:59 
[82.lo.gg.ed] 
That’s it, really. No need for pissed knickers
Pensioners can afford £17 extra per game they’re all loaded.
23rd Apr 2024 07:49:31 
[195.lo.gg.ed] 
Some mug
triggerfish
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
Silk - I agree with you on the process. I can be persuaded on the idea but the process has been a shambles and I’m pretty sure a ‘traditional’ SGM motion process wouldn’t have got anywhere near the same result as an email survey. Anyway the idea (reported on ProBoards) that this is something that “the club” wanted is eye opening. Don’t forget that the period where this would have been raised and pushed by “the club” we were still under a volunteer/DT insider MD and we suspiciously just hired a DT insider “digital transformation lead” with no apparent external process. The project seems built to fund a digital transformation of our database (again?). The whole thing stinks and shows why - even with the best intentions - recruiting plc leaders from DT cliques is fraught with risk.
23rd Apr 2024 07:20:44 
[86.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
For me the strangest thing about DTM/ST "debate" was the fact that this wasn't put to the vote amongst the members. This guestbook has shown that some people are for it and some people are against it. But if 87% of the membership had voted for it, as a hypothetical number, then the dissenters would not have any recourse to lambast the DTB about it. I have a cynical doubt that the DTB was not sure of getting the right outcome.
23rd Apr 2024 07:01:45 
[82.lo.gg.ed] 
I thought substantive changes like this and the ability for members to vote on it was the reason we are fan-owned. To avoid situations like Spurs deciding to scrap concessions to pensioners. Am I naively optimistic about that because I would have insisted on a vote about this if I had been on the DTB - even though I broadly agreed with it.
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