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what do you want ? just say it. tosser
11th Jun 2017 22:53:48 
[78.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
no its not, its time for the likes of cooper et al to get behind the leader wtf are you talking about
11th Jun 2017 22:48:51 
[78.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
labour now 45%...................................................................................................................................................................anyway looking forward to the new fixture list and we won the under 20 world cup
11th Jun 2017 22:47:54 
[2.lo.gg.ed] 
mattvinyl
do we keep our wonder keeper
"We" don't need anything like what I've said? Which bit, just out of interest.
11th Jun 2017 22:46:47 
[24.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
Individual MPs may disagree about the type of Brexit, but both parties back it. That's 580 seats. A government of all the talents has plenty of merit if party self-interest gets out of the way. Not least because a Tory-DUP pact has the potential to cause so much long-term damage to Northern Ireland that it's not worth it.
11th Jun 2017 22:46:32 
[86.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
OI - unless the Blairites can form a coup against Corbyn, and replace him with a Remainer... but then that would be long-term political suicide now he's proven he can at least compete with a left-leaning manifesto.
11th Jun 2017 22:45:58 
[24.lo.gg.ed] 
time for the Blairites to give up and form a new centre-right party IMHO
you are talking shit, we don't need anything like what you've said. have some grace and polish your sign :P
11th Jun 2017 22:43:46 
[78.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
os80's - yep. [Link] "Although Mr Corbyn was only 2,227 votes from having the opportunity to form a coalition government, Ms May’s Conservatives were only 287 votes from being able to form a working majority. Had the Conservatives seized four seats from Labour – Dudley North (22 majority); Newcastle-under-Lyme (30 majority); Crew and Nantwich (48 majority); and Canterbury (187 majority) – Ms May would have been able to form a government without support from the Democratic Unionist Party, which won 10 seats."
11th Jun 2017 22:43:30 
[24.lo.gg.ed] 
also for kyle xoxo
kyle - I'm glad you've piled in with your usual single sentence pronouncements. Many thanks. It's really added to the breadth and depth of the discussion. ;)
11th Jun 2017 22:41:35 
[24.lo.gg.ed] 
FPTP is indeed bollocks
mattvinyl- nobody knows
11th Jun 2017 22:40:45 
[86.lo.gg.ed] 
Well I'm sure somebody does know but it isn't common knowledge
The Scottish Tories plus Soubry's gang against the Headbangers mean there isn't a majority for any form of Brexit without getting Labour on board. They want to put jobs first which means compromising a lot.
11th Jun 2017 22:38:40 
[86.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
ok ao national government like in ww2 so who is our new keeper?
11th Jun 2017 22:35:30 
[2.lo.gg.ed] 
mattvinyl
internal promotion or outside, been a weak point since seb at his best!!
no, its bollocks .
11th Jun 2017 22:30:13 
[78.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
I love how Tory Boy Dan Watkins keeps trying to win in Tooting but has now lost for the third time in a row, each time with a bigger majority for the Labour candidate. I would have thought he'd get the hint after the second defeat but he insisted on putting himself through a humiliation for a third time. I went to Tooting early in the campaign but it was evident it would be a walk over for Labour so I headed to Croydon Central instead.
11th Jun 2017 22:26:14 
[86.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
this is FTPT, you can do the maths however you like it
11th Jun 2017 22:25:02 
[78.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
I think the 300 is what it would've took in the 8 seats they lost most narrowly, had they got just a few more votes in them key places they'd have got their 326 seats
11th Jun 2017 22:22:37 
[2.lo.gg.ed] 
or sumink like dat
champagne volunteer car park full socialist perhaps
11th Jun 2017 22:18:47 
[78.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
300? sorry talking shit Tudor
11th Jun 2017 22:15:12 
[78.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
Hash - like I said, Tories were actually closer to getting a majority than Labour trying to form a four-way coalition.
11th Jun 2017 22:12:38 
[24.lo.gg.ed] 
and the prime demand from SNP would be yet another indy referendum. And from LibDems would be another EU ref. Law of unintended consequences in full effect.
Leddrede - with both Conservatives and Labour* both now committed to Brexit, maybe people realised that UKIP's job was done... and most weren't that interested in their rebrand as the Mooslims Out Party.
11th Jun 2017 22:09:18 
[24.lo.gg.ed] 
* give or take a few devout refuseniks on Labour's side.
Frank Zacharias Robin Goldsmith won in Richmond Park by 42 votes with 5500 people (including me) voting Labour. If more people had voted tactically then more tories would have lost and we'd have a Labour led government now but the Lib Dems lost all credibility in 2010.
11th Jun 2017 22:06:39 
[86.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
Kentish - agreed, although not with SNP as they're desperate to stay (or LibDems). However, definitely Tories and Labour should form a temporary alliance, get the deal done and then we can get back to normal. This is the worst result possible, really, with May able to hang on with help from 'friends' of terrorists. That said, a "confidence and supply" agreement should in theory keep the Tories from full austerity measures and stuff... but I hear she's ploughing ahead with her curtain-twitching civil liberties bullshit. So, maybe not. Hey ho.
11th Jun 2017 22:06:25 
[24.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
labour will struggle to win an election without Scotland, as well as they just did, them being 3rd party not 1st in Scotland will have their hands tied
11th Jun 2017 22:06:13 
[2.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
NB Labour were something like 3,000 votes away from being in a position to form a 'rainbow coalition' with other parties. However, Tories were only 300 votes away from securing an overall majority. That's first-past-the-post for you, but hey at least we always get a 'clear winner' under this unrepresentative voting system. It's all about narratives tho.
11th Jun 2017 22:02:10 
[24.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
You're right there KD. UKIP lost their charismatic leader and their vote plummeted.
11th Jun 2017 22:01:38 
[82.lo.gg.ed] 
Lib Dems are only an irrelevance in our FPTP system.