Buggles I’m guessing quite a lot of our supporters can’t attend matches any more for a number of reasons (cost, health,age)doesn’t mean that their opinion is any less valid than your not so humble opinions

Biggles - For yonks I've supported your right to speak, even when many of your posts are full of old bollox. It's your right. But, your 16:05 is as far out as you've ever been. Sometimes things are more obvious to those outside looking in than to those closely involved. You'll be wanting an example, I suppose? Ok, stat bods don't have to attend matches to compile their figures, and yet people pore over their numbers, looking for patterns, or whatever they get from it. The average fan on the terraces knows little about running a club, but will still have an opinion. Same thing goes for those like me, no longer able to attend matches. I don't need you telling me that my opinion on the club I've supported for over 70yrs means nowt. My body may be a bit worn out, but there's nothing wrong in the marbles dept. 1/. The current team? No Wimbledon spirit. 2/.The people running things? The term 'headless chickens' springs to mind. And, for the record, I am not claiming to be an expert (as you put it), just your average old fart putting connecting the dots. I will continue supporting the right to your opinion, Biggles, but don't you dare presume to deny me the right to mine.

We are already making difficult choices TBK. Everyone keeps bleating on about how thinly resourced we are across the board. We have a Chair who cannot do the work that’s needed, a women’s team that’s funded by the trust, a half finished stadium, a below average renter training ground , the list goes on.

TBK - I'm afraid I just don't see the football world getting regulated in the way you hope anytime soon. The fans ownership dream can't be just to cling on until the world around us changes.

Well we must be hopeful of the playoff place, Broncos game moved to Rossylyn park[Link]

Yes, but we would make difficult choices before that happened. They may lead to relegation obviously.

Administration comes from running out of money. Relegation is one route to it, continually making uncovered losses is a surer route though.

Nick, the issue (as you well know) is not that our business model is unsustainable it's that the entire industry is unsustainable without new money, mainly from abroad. This is why some sort of regulation, with all its obvious flaws, is inevitable. The whole thing is fundamentally irrational. Wrexham's "fairytale" may even help prove it to some.

Lol,I decided after jackson's first season that I wouldn't bother attending till he has been replaced .although lots of our matches on tv niwdays, so by default still watch a few matches.

Biggles, you’ll never win your fan ownership argument continually making the same points. It’s tone deaf and doesn’t take into account the real world scenario in modern football. For every Bury or Reading there is a Bournemouth, Brighton, Brentford, Wycombe, Portsmouth and now Leyton Orient.

Niggles, WTF has going to football matches got to do with running a football club?

I don’t think that I (or indeed any random group of unqualified elected fans) am an expert in running a football club, which is why I wouldn’t try to do it, but I know enough about business and finance to identify an unsustainable business model when I see one.

Some don't, and even boast about it.

Biggles: I do go….

Amazing how many people who don't go to our games are supposed experts on running a football club. I wonder how keen the fans of Carlisle, Morecambe and Reading are on the merits of their "mega rich" owners?

KD - Spot on RE positive arguments, and the fact that those most vocal on fans ownership seem to be going down the route of enshrinement // Super RA // merge the club and the Trust, etc. suggests that they are more comfortable preventing the debate than they are winning the debate.

Bought a couple of Grimsby tickets yesterday, os notification saying limited resources to collect from Grim, I live in Nottingham so can’t collect from PL

KD: spot on too

Fan ownership left a club with no realistic back office and a stadium that the club couldn't afford. Fan ownership is now trying to put that right. Digging out from a hole and looking to build a viable professional club is arguably the time when you need quick and agile decision making. That, to my mind, is the biggest argument against fan ownership. Arguably even under fan ownership success was only achieved because it had one man driving it, even if that did go sour in the end.

So if fan ownership is what's best for us in 2025, let's hear some positive arguments instead of 'Yeah but what about Bury' bedwetting.

There was no alternative to fan ownership in 2002 if we wanted an FA-affiliated senior football club to represent Wimbledon. It was an amateur means to professional ends. And very successful. But the journey doesn't end with getting back to the EFL/returning to Plough Lane, righting wrongs, and worrying about what Milton Keynes do.

Also, thanks to MikeyT who came up spades for me today.

Good to hear Bob is still Bob.

Nick: spot on

I also think that it's definitely the case that fan ownership has been a good model to come through non league and build the stadium, I just don't think that it works any more at our level where basically every other club is being bankrolled or supported by an outside owner