Blue womble-it just shows Stockport have got a financial backer which we don’t

Mind you speaking of Stockport massive congratulations to them for getting promotion. They’ve been completely over looked by the media darlings new club Wrexham. Stockport could still win the league and it will be still about Wrexham.

No point asking for JJ to go, after giving him a 2 year contract..when he was recruited he said his goal was promotion. ,so.a 2 year fail.. Still least we are building and shaping a team that should bore the opposition into surrender 😂

Also we might just have to lower expectations and accept what we are under the current model. A stable league 2 club with the odd cup run to pitch us against one of the big boys.

At least we used to wait till the season ended before selling our best players in Ardley’s day, JJ doesn’t have that luxury

Silk spot on regarding wingers. Wingers need to cross on the run, not cutting back. That also has the benefit of crossing the ball that swerves away from the goal not towards it, that I think was the reason for Bass's error yesterday, it moved away from him. Those are the errors we need to force other teams, a huge percentage of our crossed are both flighted too high and more often than not away from our players and into the keepers hands. It's why taking the ball to the by-line and cut back creates uncertainty for defences.

I think I can distinguish between the two, Silko

Just another take on things, how many seasons did it take Ardley to make us competitive at this level? Even he had to deal with our best players leaving and sometimes for free. We can all see a massive improvement this season and at least we can hold our own now. I think we need to see how next season pans out, can we make that next step to promotion challengers. We have looked and got us into those places this year only to fall short through injuries and player sales.

Lurks I think Kelly has been let down in regards to not playing to his strengths. It's one thing to say he's a dud if you are replicating those strengths but we aren't. We are miles off it in that regard. I di agree however that JJ does need to learn how to manage games as in dictating play rather than play in the reactionary phases when the damage is done. Obviously you can't plan for errors like their first, but there are so many examples of teams there for the beating coming away with points.

RK - I am not asking for JJ to be sacked. It doesn't mean he is immune from criticism though. There are some who think that even fair criticism of JJ is the same as asking for his head.

Lurker - JJ did not adjust to the fact that we have a different forward. With Ali you could play those longer 50/50 balls as he had the physicality to get on them a create a chance. With Kelly and also Davison they thrive coming onto low crosses coming into the box. So you have to adjust. A start would be playing the wide men on their correct feet. He still plays Tilley on the wrong side which means he has to slow down and cut inside. He is not skillful enough to do this and still create chances. It is just little changes like this that could help us. We have to stop this practice of firing long balls to forwards who do not have the physicality to win these battles.

Papers reckoned when we lost to Doncaster that they had spent half of next seasons budget signing new players to get them out of relegation trouble

What were this season's expectations for those saying Jackson should be dacked?

But defensively we did Well without Lewis and Johnson, with brown ,O'Toole and kofi. And Reeves has hardly played well since his return. In a poor league even Doncaster have won 8 in a row. We.cant beat forest green ,sutton at home and loads of other poor teams.

Can’t blame JJ for players who make individual mistakes in games, like Bass for SwinDon’s opener. Not blaming Bass as he’s easily won games for us during the season with crucial saves. It happens! Also he’s lost his best striker at a crucial point in the season. I think he deserves kudos for turning Ali into a million pound striker. We’ve also had to combat Omar being on international duty, losing Reeves, Little, Johnson & Lewis for a large amount of games.

Kelly has had a raw deal since joining Jackson has no other plans other than the long ball and long throw. A inept manager with 2 years left!

Another thing about Kelly is we’ve done what louder fans wanted. Tried to find a gem in non league. We kept getting lectures about it. Now it hasn’t worked I’ve noticed some of the same people are calling it out as failed. Like I said yesterday everyone’s happy to throw their expert opinion on things like recruitment and coaching but then steps away from the smell when it turns out that didn’t work so well.

Legal, decent, honest, truthful?

I think what Craig Cope meant that some players the club does not value will still be under contract next season and there is very little scope in the budget to improve it whilst we are spending money on them.

The Championship in 5 years was a marketing ploy.

Just seen the extended highlights. All three of SwinDon goals came from them getting the ball wide and putting decent crosses in - albeit their first was down to a mistake, but percentages and second balls and all that. They didn't seem to have wingers playing on their wrong foot either. This is what we should be doing - not playing 50/50 balls in the vague direction of our forwards - as the first two highlights showed. In fact both our goals. There is a moment in them where Neufville has the ball on the right and Kelly makes the correct run to get himself in front of his defender. Neufville muffs his cross but it that had been accurate...That is a lot better than whacking the ball 50 yards or so in the hope that we will win the header and the knock on falls to one of ours.

Indeed

Definitely cloud cuckoo land - both on the parts of the people who wrote it and the people who swallowed it.

Interested then Nick why we had an ambition that we'd be Championship in 5 seasons - was that cloud-cuckoo land, or did something change about the debt which meant we hadn't initially thought we'd need to sell our best players, or was it just words with no substance at all behind them? In all businesses far better to be honest with the shareholders at the outset.

Surbition that Colchester game was ridiculous. That’s why we go to be entertained. Games like Colchester, SwinDon & Notts provided the best experience I’ve had in a long long time. Unfortunately when Ali & Omar left for international duty our form dropped.