Martin - Cambridge English Dictionary definition of 'elected' is "to decide on or choose, especially to choose a person for a particular job, by voting". So if there is no vote then they haven't been elected. They've been appointed.

TBK, I agree about the unelected comment, it's not his fault he was granted a place on the DTB unopposed. The issue I have with that, is that given that situation, it would look right to most people I think, that any candidate who gets put into post should be on the ballot paper at the following election, ie, one year only, not this 3 nonsense we have atm. That would be my constitution rule change in this regard.

Apologies, football-related post incoming as a distraction from the election chat…. At the end of the Blackpool game, Bugiel ran through for a one-on-one with their keeper, and fluffed it (well, the keeper blocked it…), and appeared to grab the top of his hamstring area, only to then be subbed off. Was he going to be missing this weekend for international duty, and has there been any update - I presume (from how it looked to me in the highlights) that we may actually be without him for several games…? Anyone know more?

TBK, Angus had 2 opportunities to close this conversation. Only he could make that decision and he chose not to which means he is and remains an unelected Dons trust chair.

Please can we knock this idea on the head that someone isn't "elected" if the election isn't contested. That's how every democratic election works whether you like it or not. You are confusing election with voting.

If Angus had any self respect and awareness he would have stood again for election at the first opportunity. The fact he’s chosen not to on two occasions says it all

Martin - He wasn't elected to the board by the members, and he was elected as chair by other members of the board. I'm afraid I thought it was completely out of order for him to use the proxy votes in that way.

All round the Coopers tonight then for TBK to enjoy the Fair Trade frothy latte and carrot cake, while the Earlsfield East Taliban vote on the stoning of My Pie man soon.

Can't remember Mav. Suspect the later. That's why he was elected. Geoff, I suspect Sky make that decision and you've reminded me to check when I next get a chance. I'll try and get exact membership numbers published but it's not my priority.

Martin - Did those proxy votes tell Angus how to vote on their behalf or did he exercise his own judgement?

I believe you did discuss them with me on here Martin. I think you suggested the first was moot as the game had already taken place, which would be a massive misreading of the issue. I think you said the second was 'difficult' though I would have thought knowing how many memberships were from holding a season ticket was simple and the only difficulty would be if someone didn't want the membership to have such details.

With such a low % it would not have sat comfortably but who knows they may co-opt me now 😂

Of one bubble, maybe, but on the inside of others - this one for example.

The meetings will continue until morale improves.

Ah, I see the members SGM was too long ago to be relevant, sounds like the board are keen for another. Fire up the form, lads.

TBK, thats the point, you are either inside or outside of a bubble, I'm most definitely on the outside.

So guessing JaW if you had continued to stand for election and was successful with a 23% turnout, you would have refused to take you seat on the DTB 🤷🏻‍♂️😉😎

WBM, what about what it would look like to those that give him their vote? Are their wishes to be ignored?

TBK, having a room of supporters hugely in favour and vetoing them all because you disagree isn't a great look however you try to justify it.

That's what I'd have brought to the Trust Board.

Robert's Rules.

Thanks Alan. Were proxy votes abused? As far as I remember Angus had to choose who to let down; those voting in the room or those who had trusted their proxy votes to his judgement. That's always a difficult decision. Pretty pointless poring over something that happened a year ago but don't let me stop you.

Dons outlook. Completely disagree with this ST thing. Much better to have ST in DT than blokes who pay £20 and never go (which we have). In fact if we were starting from scratch I would say that ST holders should have been the starting point

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TBK, turn out and how to raise it. Lots of people, reading the room would say that the appearance of gerrymandering to get the result the DTB wants, turns people off. The twice banning of a candidate and the abuse of proxy votes, both publicly demonstrated that the members involvement means little. Address this issue and give people a legitimate reason to be involved and the membership attitudes will change gor some at least.