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a4e, that's precisely it. They want an immediate ceasefire now alongside hostages being released (mentioned lower down, which makes it appear like the token concession these NGOs make so they can claim to not be taking sides) rather than saying only a ceasefire once hostages have been released. If Hamas want a ceasefire, return the hostages they have so wickedly captured. You may disagree. That's not the point. Israel's position is that hostages must be returned and Hamas dismantled so they can't regroup and commit further atrocities (as their charter shows they would do) so War Child is opposing Israel's view and the club is therefore taking a political position by endorsing them. As a fan, I find that unacceptable.
27th Mar 2024 07:44:39 
[86.lo.gg.ed] 
oxford don
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
Sorry, that was for Oxford. (I must associate long, non-tagged posts with Scotty).
27th Mar 2024 07:39:32 
[82.lo.gg.ed] 
Get a tag, both of you. Tight feckers šŸ˜€
Of course itā€™s the clubā€™s position, Scotty. We are of the cretinous left that favours an Islamist dictatorship over a sovereign democratic nation.
27th Mar 2024 07:37:03 
[82.lo.gg.ed] 
Of course
oxford - Iā€™m not trying to cause a disagreement, and Iā€™m not a War Child donor or anything, but are you able to provide a link for your suggestion that War Child doesnā€™t say a ceasefire should include the release of hostages? In their Instagram posts they repeatedly call for ā€œthe immediate release of all hostages and detaineesā€ [Link] and [Link] (the second link is from this month). Their pinned post on X (Twitter) says the same, as does this one [Link] but if youā€™ve seen something else, Iā€™d be interested to see it šŸ‘
27th Mar 2024 07:37:02 
[104.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
Just realised War Child is anti-Israel and calling for a ceasefire in Gaza which isn't conditional on hostages being released first by Hamas. I'm actually shocked the club is supporting a charity with these views. I realise many on here will disagree but that's precisely the point - don't get involved in disputed political causes. Yes the Middle East is complex but Hamas repeatedly say they want to wipe out the Jewish people and committed the most appalling of massacres on Oct 7, continuing to hold hostages today. What is the club thinking endorsing War Child's views? Do we all have to be pro-Palestine and anti-Israel? That's the position the club is taking.
27th Mar 2024 07:03:07 
[86.lo.gg.ed] 
oxford don
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
Hi Leigh. Hope you're keeping well. Yes, always the innocent who pay the price. Hope whoever posted that invite understands that, plus the position he's unthinkingly put the club in.
27th Mar 2024 00:14:50 
[2.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
The middle east is complicated. The UK and others enabled the state of Israel. All was fine until they started taking over more and more Palestinian areas. Anyone condemning this approach is not anti Jewish but anti Zionist. I deplore both the recent Hamas attacks and the Israeli response. Thousands of innocents have died.
26th Mar 2024 23:45:27 
[147.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
My point about the comments was more that you know how something on the internet becomes fact in seconds. I agree that's got potential to turn into all sorts of bullshit.
26th Mar 2024 23:40:05 
[147.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
pete that's exactly my point, they put the club in a no win position by wording it in a way that clearly suggests the club was involved.
26th Mar 2024 23:38:42 
[147.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
Lurker - The poster literally put the club between a rock and a hard place. Forget outsiders slagging off the club, they are just pointless hot air blowers. There are other faceless radicals that could and would do far worse than name calling, any of which may have seen AFCW as sympathetic to the the other side, had not the club issued that statement. There's a far bigger issue here than freedom of speech, thanks to that post.
26th Mar 2024 23:22:01 
[2.lo.gg.ed] 
and before I get accused of over-reacting, check history.
Doesn't War Child use red/white on some of it's logo and stuff?
26th Mar 2024 22:50:21 
[147.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
Why red and white? Those arenā€™t our colours. Had they made it blue with yellow sheep Iā€™d have got it
26th Mar 2024 22:47:05 
[82.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
The volunteers who got the protesters interested in attending on a match day should probably resign, caused the club a headache and in the long run could cost the club.
26th Mar 2024 22:42:47 
[10.lo.gg.ed] 
And there was me thinking it the wup poste that put sponsors and the like off.as we were once told off on here by couperman
And now thanks to that bellend posting it we've got a whole load of people nothing to do with the club slagging it off for opposing people's free rights etc. Well done dick head.
26th Mar 2024 22:29:03 
[147.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
Nick W my issue starts with not being able (ever) to do a resell. This season has been up and down for me being able to get there with mixed notice. But I've only ever resold a ticket through emailing the office.
26th Mar 2024 22:21:16 
[147.lo.gg.ed] 
As usual they're great at it.
The Twitter replies to that statement are a sad statement on the modern world. Virtue signalling, whataboutery and puerile humour attempts.
26th Mar 2024 22:17:07 
[195.lo.gg.ed] 
The person who tried to link the club to that horrendous situation should wobble their own head. Got nobody nowhere.
Britain wins the local derby with the US on penalties!
26th Mar 2024 21:53:43 
[86.lo.gg.ed] 
Virgin Islands
Bellingham does a Ronan Curtis
26th Mar 2024 21:41:19 
[86.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
KT2 the less said the better.
26th Mar 2024 21:15:31 
[62.lo.gg.ed] 
keefy
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
Club statement was appalling IMO.
26th Mar 2024 21:10:58 
[31.lo.gg.ed] 
The word club in the second paragraph should not have been capitalised.
How many English left backs are in between Chilwell and Currie?
26th Mar 2024 20:30:44 
[92.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
Decent assist from Pickford thrre. Another one who can't tell the difference between Belg & Eng
26th Mar 2024 19:59:17 
[86.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
Pickford balls up
26th Mar 2024 19:58:52 
[62.lo.gg.ed] 
keefy
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
Taff game on s4c now
26th Mar 2024 19:55:16 
[104.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
Is everyone boycotting the England game as there is no flag at all on the back of their shirts?
26th Mar 2024 19:52:12 
[86.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
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