Hash - that’s improved my optimism no end….

Outlook - I hadn’t really planned to switch to an EV yet, but when a friend told me how much he was saving, I decided to go and ask some questions… Result was that I ended up taking one, and I honestly don’t regret it at all. I’ve always driven a manual car, and with recent hernia issues, I’d been mulling over the idea of going automatic, maybe to a hybrid initially - but then I thought why go hybrid when pretty much everyone will be fully electric in a few years, and the price of petrol doesn’t look too likely to drop very far any time soon…

2-2 AET Bellingham and Saka England goals Bellingham sent off Messi sent off Pickford sent off Scaloni and Tuckel also given red cards Argentina win 7-6 on penalties

Tonight is our 4th TF , 1966 1990 2018

If I wanted to drive an EV I would have become a milkman.

Kite - it’s really not good enough, far too slow to be rolled out. Is it worth contacting your MP?

49 - I totally agree, a proper solution needs to be found, especially for people living in blocks of apartments where there is no opportunity to charge below the building unless there are charge points in place for each flat - future buildings will have this, but retrofitting is probably impossible or massively expensive… :(

Yeah I can't charge from home so can't get an EV. Hopefully things will change as Govt are rolling out grants to County Councils to install EV charging points on streets nr homes. I applied for one but not heard back nearly nine months later

A4, millions cannot charge from home. You are lucky for others not such a good deal switching to EV.

*it would also be nice if Messi could score a late own goal as the winner, and then get sent off for losing his rag.

It would be so amazing to be able to see how energy supply and use has changed 100 years from today….

I'm going for 2-1 England, unless FIFA intervene.

*Dan Burn

The problem with North Sea oil is we have already extracted most of the more easily accessible reserves. What's left is only economically viable if the price of a barrel remains high.

I don’t understand betting websites - can anyone find me the odds for dan burn to score the winning goal in the world cup final…? Surely got to be worth a tenner (obviously no good if England lose tonight…).

Sorry for the double post on this - the other thing I take as a positive is that England have been tested more than once so far this tournament. Fallen behind and had to dig a result out. England teams of old often had that defeated air about them when there was plenty of time left to to try - this lot keep trying.

RK - re energy production: the situation is not the either/or that you present. We live amongst a host of retired engineers/ heavy-duty tradesmen who discuss all sorts of more consensual and less punishing alternatives. They are not wicked 'climate change deniers'. They are highly intelligent, knowledgeable, thoughtful old blokes who don't want to see most people dragged back into the standard of living of their great -grandparents.

Rate our chances 50:50 tonight. We absolutely can beat Argentina which makes tonight’s game very tantalising.

EV all the way for me now - it cost me £2.27 to charge from 40 to 100% last night, which would probably have cost around £25-30 in petrol…

40 years since the hand of God, we will get revenge and have Bellingham,the best player in this year's world cup.

Triggs, first time for everything... In regard the Gas and oil situation, am I missing something, but are the global(or otherwise) price rises down to the ability to not have a supply that's available? Surely the supply and demand argument says that if we can supply it, the price comes down.

Good runs always come to an end at some point….

Argentina have never lost a World Cup semifinal. Won 5 out of 5.

If we lose, my algorithm, Hot weather + copious alcohol + football defeat in key game = mayhem

Drill baby drill, x