Financial Fair Play rules were marketed as a way to stop clubs over spending and ending up in financial difficulties and administration. Man City are about the only club that can out spend all their rivals without their owners having to worry about financial difficulties and the money running out. FFP rules are based on the ratio of spend to earnings. The problem for Man City was that too much of their spending came from the owners rather than from earnings.

And the name of a deathtrap car from the past

And the surname “pinto” means “spotted” so fair play to the young man for spotting all the corruption and not putting up with it.

Interesting reading that it was the actions of a Portuguese computer hacker, Rui Pinto, who accessed Man Ciry internal docs to start the process.

S’ok I looked it up and answered my own question - yes Tf now f*** off.

Have we kept five clean sheets out of seven league games so far?

Deduct 80 points (next season) and 5 year transfer embargo should be the punishment

Relegating City would potentially mean clubs further down the pyramid missing out on promotion. Transfer embargo, points deductions for x number of seasons and a massive fine would work and not unduly affect other clubs. 30 points would keep them midtable with no chance of reaching the CL and very little of reaching Europa or Conference.

Agree about punishing the fans Stu - that’s also why I think relegation without additional action (eg like you say multiple transfer window bans) just punishes other clubs’ fans as well.

Listening to Radio 5 last night and a City fan was on there saying that it might end up to be the perfect sacrifice to break the rules from 2009, spend all the money on infrastructure etc, take a heavy slap on the wrists and in 5 years time they are back winning things again in the EPL and still have all the revenue etc they need and end up in a better place than 2009.

A fine is pointless as they have Saudi government money. Only thing that will punish them will be a relegation to League 2 and a transfer ban for many seasons. Financially the other clubs are going to sue the pants of them and that will really impact them.

Already seeing posts on socials to not punish the fans for what happens in the boardroom. That argument just winds me up. Look at clubs like Sheffield Wednesday, Bolton, Wigan and many others who went into admin, fans begged for fans not to be punished and they managed to win out their non-football debts and carry on. Now Wednesday and Bolton fans giving it large about how good they are when they nearly went out of business.

OTD - Yeovil's old ground is now a Tesco car park - presumable Tesco sorted out the slope. Having been to their new ground a few years ago I don't think Huish Park is much of an improvement over Huish.

Agreed Leddy - and that’s why the hopefully-wrongly-reported potential investors’ plan to transform our football model to picking up young talent and selling them on is decades out of date.

The thing is the PL financial rules were set up to try to preserve the status quo. The trophy winning clubs at the top don't want a big spending newcomer to mussel in on their cosy cartel. The rest of the PL don't want to be outspent in their quest to stay in the league by a promoted club.

Rio Ferdinand already tried that one about getting another winner's medal TF. I know he only did it for the lolz (as the middle aged say) but still obnoxious.

Plus you'd get all the Arsenal fans crowing about a title they never actually won.

I'm definitely against rewriting history. Nobody knows what would have happened if they hadn't indulged in financial doping. Whoever came second in the league wouldn't necessarily have won it, the team they beat in the third round of the Cup might have won it just as the team they beat in the final. A big fine, well into nine figures, with it being spent on grass roots football over many years. 30 point deductions for three or four years.

Amazingly I would like to see a stadium closure too for a number of matches to make the point to City supporters that cheats do not prosper, and impacts fans. Other clubs have missed out on winning cups and titles - supporters have missed out on that enjoyment.

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Feels like The Premier League doesn’t want to let City be seen to get away with it so they’ll have to find a suitable punishment. Big fine and one off points deduction, as you say, won’t cut it. Those and a multi-year transfer ban is more fitting in my mind because it penalises them for a duration of time similar (but not necessarily equal to) their years of infringement. Relegating them to the Championship (or even League One) just gives them 2 seasons of winning every game and punishing clubs that otherwise might have had a sniff of a promotion or playoff spot. Asterisk by the titles or giving the titles to runners up has zero impact in my mind so whether they’re included or not I don’t really care.

Can’t wait for Man City to be punished with a 3 points deduction for each of the 114 guilty verdicts, making a total of 342 points, but crucially for all of the 114 deductions to run concurrently so that City basically get away with it….

Regarding drinks going flying at a football match, during our CCL days, I was walking back to my place at the Kingston road end when it was the home terrace, with a steaming hot coffee held out in front of me when a goal went in and my coffee was hit from underneath as someone threw their arms in the air and my drink disappeared. I just hope it didn't burn anyone.

OD - unless things have changed since I was last there, I didn't have too much problem before finding an on street parking spot in one of the side roads. Need to be careful tomorrow in case they've introduced any new matchday parking restrictions but I can't imagine all the home supporters paying to park, using a park and ride or parking miles away. I think last time I parked in Wadloes Road, which was about 10 minutes away. Have a play with Google maps and see which roads look OK and just give yourself a bit of time to be sure when you get there.