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To misquote Oscar Wilde - "The only thing worse than a £3m unsecured loan is no £3m unsecured loan".
13th Nov 2026 11:08:10 [82.lo.gg.ed]
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Still getting that damn "[Link] error message on my pc.
13th Nov 2026 11:05:49 [81.lo.gg.ed]
Surprised, even with the £3m facility, the auditors gave an unqualified audit report given the risk of not being a going concern and the directors were prepared to prepare accounts on that basis. Maybe they though to otherwise would be a self-fulfilling prophecy or just accelerate it when everyone previously happy to wait for payment demands it immediately or all bond holders opt to cash it at maturity.
Yeah the bit I struggle with is the path from minority investor to full owner. Especially if some enshriners stand for election this year and our constitutional rules which might make full sale nigh on impossible without the pain of administration.
13th Nov 2026 11:05:26 [195.lo.gg.ed]
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Trigger - minority investors, at least in name.
13th Nov 2026 10:30:27 [45.lo.gg.ed]
More accurately, minority owners who end up being the de facto proper owners. Either way, we're reaching the end of the "fan ownership" era.
New owners or new minority investors?
13th Nov 2026 10:20:00 [195.lo.gg.ed]
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Morning all. TBH I expect we'd have gone into admin long before National League South ever appeared on the horizon. Though of course it's anyone's guess who would buy us then, and in what shape the club will be in...
13th Nov 2026 09:43:08 [45.lo.gg.ed]
FWIW I think we'll avoid admin and have new owners this time next year. Even if it's a panic sale.
Agreed Nick. Seems like last chance saloon for us as a club. £3 million probably buys us another 12 months to finalise an investment. If we are unable to do so its options 2 or 3 of your 8.32 post.
13th Nov 2026 09:30:13 [89.lo.gg.ed]
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Boing
13th Nov 2026 09:12:03 [51.lo.gg.ed]
Apologies
My guess is that that agreeing £3m facility referred to in the AGM papers is what we have had to do in order to prepare the accounts on a going concern basis (ie without that the directors would have to say that we wouldn't have funding at all to continue in business for a year from the date of approval of the accounts). It is definitely not going to be a stable source of funding for anything other than the very short term and I would expect (noting this is not disclosed) that the interest rate would be extremely high (well into double figures), as we don't have any option and are a very high risk borrower, so the lender can charge as much as they like.
13th Nov 2026 09:01:22 [81.lo.gg.ed]
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Seems that today is one of those days where my dinosaur like qualities come to the rescue!
13th Nov 2026 08:47:43 [176.lo.gg.ed]
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Also OTD today looks a little X-rated...
13th Nov 2026 08:39:06 [94.lo.gg.ed]
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Be good if the DTB came out today with a nice update telling fans what is happening and contingency plans. There's been near silence from the DTB, they've held meetings but no recent updates.
13th Nov 2026 08:38:05 [94.lo.gg.ed]
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Those accounts are pretty terrible and do support the assertion at the meeting that we are very close to no longer being viable (ie that wasn't just scaremongering). I think that the choices are really (1) find another investor very quickly (2) drop back to non league - NL South or below (and give up the stadium as we couldn't cover its costs at that level) or (3) administration and hope that we get bought out of that rather than being liquidated. The latest deal falling through can't be blamed on the DT but the fact that we left it way too late to start looking for outside investment definitely can.
13th Nov 2026 08:32:52 [81.lo.gg.ed]
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Microsoft down. Know nothing about tech but I run a Chrome laptop and can use gmail Although i do know we are sliding into a mire.
13th Nov 2026 08:19:54 [103.lo.gg.ed]
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Dorking Don, when was it ever any different ? It’s like watching paint dry. I think you have to go back to Euro 96 for the last time we were out of our seats……until Handbrake let the country down with his spot kick.
13th Nov 2026 07:41:01 [86.lo.gg.ed]
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Getting embarrassing now
13th Nov 2026 05:03:51 [49.lo.gg.ed]
63/7
I’m at Optus Stadium, a fucking horrendous start to the ODI by England to put it mildly!!!
13th Nov 2026 04:53:35 [49.lo.gg.ed]
58/6
No such thing as an unsecured loan when you have assets, is there? And who has offered it? I assume it’s not Barclays or Natwest.
12th Nov 2026 23:38:59 [86.lo.gg.ed]
Love the transparency
We don’t even know how much Dave Boyle was paid to write the new constitution but we do know that he was paid.
12th Nov 2026 23:17:55 [195.lo.gg.ed]
He’s now Dons Trust Secretary. That feels trustworthy.
A £3m unsecured loan is rolling the dice on getting external investment. Because it is unsecured doesn't mean the lender can't sue for recovering it, especially as there are assets to sell to raise the repayment. i.e. the stadium, which our constitution will not allow so we will be screwed.
12th Nov 2026 23:14:31 [81.lo.gg.ed]
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There is a NEW 9yrspodcast available now which won't provide much cheer for those reeling from these accounts and the news of another loan. Stu and I discuss the fallout of No-mar Mir's disconcertingly vague disappearance, and where it leaves the club. Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and YouTube via [Link]
12th Nov 2026 23:03:15 [185.lo.gg.ed]
... there is some light in the shade. Some.
Well cant afford to sack jj now, so expect to relegated before April
12th Nov 2026 22:53:34 [82.lo.gg.ed]
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When I try to post from my PC I get an error message with the wupgb.co.uk/ followed by quick_write_respond_cache.php and it doesn't let me post but works on my phone. If any technical guys are lurking let me know if the issue is at my end or somewhere else.
Have any of you seen the papers for the AFCW PLC AGM? We've been offered a £3m unsecured facility, which they are seeking approval for [Link] Hope the link works. If not, it's down the bottom of the club board page on the OS.
12th Nov 2026 22:44:04 [81.lo.gg.ed]
I can’t seem to post from my PC anymore. I keep getting a “[Link] p” message. I end up using my phone as whatever browser I use, in normal or incognito mode, it doesn’t work. Bizarre.
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