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Fact: After one has factored in a "London Waiting" uplift our average revenue (et Vat) per bum on seat is one of the lowest, if not the lowest, in the entire football pyramid. Some of you expect a West End Production for the price of an local amateur dramatics production. All too often I hear people pleading that they can't afford more. Well fine - buy a season ticket for the Women's or watch Youth Football or accept watching us struggle in L1 or perform in L2. But don't just expect someone else to pay - whether it be a sugar daddy or fairy godmother or expecting players like Tilley & Neufville to take reduced earnings. I am prepared to pay more for L1 football and I will be prepared to do the same again if we ever get promoted into the Championship - but everyone else needs to do the same.
12th Jun 2025 11:35:07
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Glad I don't fly anymore ,RIP to those in the Air India Dreamliner Crash.
12th Jun 2025 11:21:33
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P99, that's on the other side of the road outside the carpet shop.
12th Jun 2025 11:21:21
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Think a 493 crashed outside the ground last night
12th Jun 2025 11:05:10
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Sav - absolutely agree about the survey, it shouldn't be one designed to get the preferred answer but something that sets out the difficult choices.
12th Jun 2025 10:50:07
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Looking forward to private ownership when apparently [checks notes] we will be able to sign whoever we want, won't lose any players to rivals, won't sign any duffers and we will always be looking up not down. Come on. Find me any fanbase that doesn't moan about the above. Our model presents some challenges. Change of ownership might present others. It's wrong to just look at the downsides of one scenario and just look at the upsides of the other.
12th Jun 2025 10:49:39
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We weren't even the highest-placed fan-owned club in the pyramid last season btw
TS - yeah, except in the case of insolvency we are pretty much stuck with improving the current model or accepting our level.
12th Jun 2025 10:39:36
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and why the ‘Super RA’ was enshrinement in all but name - a practically impossible threshold to change things.
Happy new signing day for any clubs out there making signings.
12th Jun 2025 10:25:27
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This isn't a jibe - we were always going to have to wait a while now that we've gone up a division. Small fish in a bigger pond.
Sav all the people that I know who support AFC, and with whom I speak regularly, don't want fan ownership. But that is never going to change while the 75% vote requirement is in place.
12th Jun 2025 10:21:56
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Let's remove all age discounts so that the people who've paid tax etc for 40-50 years can't afford to leave their homes.
12th Jun 2025 10:17:40
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I've concluded that AFC Wimbledon is a microcosm of society - everyone wants better players, health & education, soldiers to make Vlad tremor ..
12th Jun 2025 10:14:15
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but no-one wants to pay and will readily hand everything over to someone who will :)
Oh and as for surveys: Of course most people are going to tick yes to 'do you want AFCW to remain fans owned?' given it's such a core part of our identity. But in a future survey we need to be much more explicit about the trade offs - e.g. Do you want AFCW to challenge for a Championship place? If yes, are you willing to help pay for it out of your pocket? If no, whose pocket should the extra money come from and how would we persuade them to give it?
12th Jun 2025 10:13:01
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Doing a survey makes sense but it really should be a a tool about communicating the challenges and trade offs of fans ownership as well as being a mechanism to say we all still love fans ownership.
I realise that the implications are tough to hear but JG's main point holds true: the current model of fans ownership, with our asset base and current revenue/profit generation ability appears unlikely to be able to sustain football above L2 for long periods. Either we get better at the commercial side of fans ownership i.e. earn more money to invest in players; or we accept where we are is our long-term level; or we look for other ownership models. I'm not particularly happy to accept where we are is our long-term level.
12th Jun 2025 10:06:00
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Certainly agree with that last point OI - adding on top that the challenge looks incredibly difficult and there may not be an answer at all.
12th Jun 2025 09:48:19
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Surely our owner John Green will put more money in this season?
12th Jun 2025 09:33:31
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Trigger - the last evidence showed a majority in favour of fan ownership so that should be respected. I'd favour another survey of both DT members and the wider ticket buying group. Until that is done the best one can work on is the last set of evidence. I also think that having elected and assembled largely new boards you do have to give them some time to come up with a believable plan.
12th Jun 2025 09:16:36
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JG, as a short term view thats great but longer term that shows zero business acumen. The kids are cheap because its an investment. Get them coming as kids they are hooked for life. We start charging full price for them and families can't afford to come, which means you start to lose the parents too. Then you start to only be left with the older fans who you've then also priced out due to not offering pension discounts.
12th Jun 2025 08:59:20
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Don't build up your hopes. With our friends in Whitehall determined to tax pensioners to the hilt we will be lucky to be able to eat let alone buy season tickets.
12th Jun 2025 08:10:29
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Meadow - OAP discount ? not if JG has any say in it.
12th Jun 2025 00:37:52
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Thankfully I do have the income to buy a season ticket. Sadly not to pay all up front so I'll pay a premium for installments. Roll on 2029 when I'll get an OAP discount - hopefully.
11th Jun 2025 23:53:57
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I can't even afford the price of a season ticket these days, but in John Galt's book that would likely make me a meanie because I'm not committing enough to the club.
11th Jun 2025 23:43:45
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I had been a season ticket holder since AFCW started, apart from the last 3 seasons, and I also used to go to 90+% of away games too, but unfortunately, my financial situation has drastically changed in recent years, so you have my deepest apologies JG, that i'm not in the same financial bracket as you.
JG I'm not too mean. I earn just over £20k and have bills to pay. I do my bit as a volunteer programme seller. I can't do any more.
11th Jun 2025 23:32:50
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‘John Galt’ makes a fair point. C’mon, Dons fans! Put your hands in your pockets and pay the wages of League 1 players you watch every other Saturday as a hobby. Forget the kids’ new shoes or that well-earned summer holiday. We’re a fans club, so, pay up you meanies!
11th Jun 2025 23:17:06
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