That bond banner is very pleasing to my eye Bert, fine work Sir :)

All of which makes it interesting (and right) when Joe Palmer pointed out that he wasn’t at the meetings to lead this, we need to decide our strategy/approach and his job is to make it work.

Exactly WD! The problems arose because the DTB didn't question enough at some points and then took on more executive roles, presumably because money is tight and we couldn't afford suitable employees.

I always assumed that the DTB works in exactly the same way as almost all local government in this country - elected members give strategic direction to the professional officers that run the council in line with that direction. The CEO and staff should have more knowledge and resources than the elected members, who have no executive responsibilities.

Lurker, agree with that, untouchable people aren't good for a democratic organisation unless they are capable of having an open mind and can question themselves and accept that they can be wrong.

Kt2 I’d agree up to it being inherent in the model. For me one of the big reasons that happened was the cult status Erik and Ivor both accumulated amongst core elements of the fan base. Don’t question them they know more than you so became a mantra - even seen it on here.

Erik's problem , which he had been told numerous times and admitted, was delegation, as he tended to think, correctly a lot of the time, that he could do a better job than whoever he might delegate it to. This both gave him a ridiculous workload and tended to discourage able people. If we can't put a DTB together from willing fans that can oversee professional managers and hold them to account when needed, then we might as well sell out. I believe we can get a good board together, though it is definitely a work in progress.

Not part of the 'inner circle' so don't claim to be ITK on this (or anything else), but strikes me that what happened with decision making during Erik's reign was inevitable. When someone with a wealth of relevant expertise is heading or working with a board of individuals (that mostly aren't as familiar with the sharp end of business) it's inevitable that they will naturally defer to the greater expertise on the (many) subjects on which they have less expertise - such as financing. So Erik gradually accumulated decision making power by default, IE a lack of expertise / ability amongst the DTB to challenge, rather than some sort of dictatorial coup.

Ah thanks Graham

Blue Womble - Burton have a league game against Accrington this Saturday which was in the fixture list all along

Alan ; 👍

Eating, drinking, breathing the club doesn't make one a good board member, but in Ivor not only does it help, it also comes over to outsiders as someone worthy of lending an ear to. He does engage with others, whereas others don't, nothing wrong with that btw, if their skillset don't warrant that. This episode is prime for all of us and the various boards to understand what brought us here, what we have to change and how we do so. Now isn't the time for scapegoating.

Can we release a version of the Spam song, replacing the word Spam with the word Bond, in honour of Terry Jones.....? “Lovely Bond, Wonderful Bond, Bond Bond Bond Bond.....”

A Win against Burton on Tuesday night under floodlights.....will do for me ..

Cheers keefy and thanks for taking the question for what it was.

Nothing wrong with wanting to see the club properly financed. I see from the board minutes we are putting £1 - 1.4m provision for servicing debt. In salaries instead of debt servicing that gets you Dannie Bulman, Darius Charles, Lyle Taylor, Tom Elliot, Jake Reeves and Steve Seddon.

Strange how we are not playing burton on Saturday as no Fa cup fixtures for us both. It would be a higher attendance on a Saturday as well

Erik was almost a God for me, told him he deserves a statue, but reply was prefer Car Parking space ... that was day perhaps something changed ....park his car next to investors Roller? ...sad to see his hand go up for investors... Be wary of all powerful i guess ...

TF - The only change that Erik made was Erik. More explicitly the threat of no Erik, implicit rather than stated ... the DT certainly have the power to make any changes they see fit, within a legal framework and subject to any restrictive actions.

Shared and seedrs !

Tf bought. Shared at the start, invested in Seeded and will buy a bond but do not see outside investment as the evil from a far off planet. Never really felt part of the fan owned model. Seemed to be the inner circle that run the club over the years, in fact back in the plough lane days volunteered a lot of time to the club even though different owners came and went! I have no fear for the future, my glass is always half full.

We need Ivor to stay on as many boards as possible because atm he eats drinks and sleeps our club unlike others I feel. He has been up against it regarding some decisions fighting a lone battle against less AFC WIMBLEDON bleeding members

I’d love to hear Trebor’s view on OI’s post earlier which claimed the DTB has enormous power. From my perspective it seems they are powerless but maybe OI is right and it’s a capability thing. As I understood it Erik made changes early in his now tainted tenure which cut the DTB’s balls off and rendered them virtually impotent.

Bonds just gone up by 4p. Whilst cunting off the world, biggles has put his shoulder to the wheel 😜

Sorry to go back but this being allowed to be left soooo late by DTB still pisses the F””K out of me