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That bond banner is very pleasing to my eye Bert, fine work Sir :)
23rd Jan 2020 10:41:25 
[94.lo.gg.ed] 
KT2 - your moral is spot on. I share OI's view that we probably have capable people in the fan base, I just don't think they have sufficient time to commit.
All of which makes it interesting (and right) when Joe Palmer pointed out that he wasn’t at the meetings to lead this, we need to decide our strategy/approach and his job is to make it work.
23rd Jan 2020 10:14:32 
[46.lo.gg.ed] 
For which he is still getting kicked. Even though that is sort of what people are complaining Erik was allowed to not do.
Exactly WD! The problems arose because the DTB didn't question enough at some points and then took on more executive roles, presumably because money is tight and we couldn't afford suitable employees.
23rd Jan 2020 10:09:43 
[109.lo.gg.ed] 
Get the DTB back to their evening jobs
Oo er missus!
I always assumed that the DTB works in exactly the same way as almost all local government in this country - elected members give strategic direction to the professional officers that run the council in line with that direction. The CEO and staff should have more knowledge and resources than the elected members, who have no executive responsibilities.
23rd Jan 2020 10:06:33 
[91.lo.gg.ed] 
The CEO has a duty to keep the elected members informed of what is going on and cannot overrule the decisions of the elected members
Lurker, agree with that, untouchable people aren't good for a democratic organisation unless they are capable of having an open mind and can question themselves and accept that they can be wrong.
23rd Jan 2020 09:56:25 
[10.lo.gg.ed] 
Otherwise they can get to sound like the "you don't want to do that...." Harry Enfield character
Kt2 I’d agree up to it being inherent in the model. For me one of the big reasons that happened was the cult status Erik and Ivor both accumulated amongst core elements of the fan base. Don’t question them they know more than you so became a mantra - even seen it on here.
23rd Jan 2020 09:45:36 
[46.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
Erik's problem , which he had been told numerous times and admitted, was delegation, as he tended to think, correctly a lot of the time, that he could do a better job than whoever he might delegate it to. This both gave him a ridiculous workload and tended to discourage able people. If we can't put a DTB together from willing fans that can oversee professional managers and hold them to account when needed, then we might as well sell out. I believe we can get a good board together, though it is definitely a work in progress.
23rd Jan 2020 09:38:36 
[109.lo.gg.ed] 
all my personal opinion
Not part of the 'inner circle' so don't claim to be ITK on this (or anything else), but strikes me that what happened with decision making during Erik's reign was inevitable. When someone with a wealth of relevant expertise is heading or working with a board of individuals (that mostly aren't as familiar with the sharp end of business) it's inevitable that they will naturally defer to the greater expertise on the (many) subjects on which they have less expertise - such as financing. So Erik gradually accumulated decision making power by default, IE a lack of expertise / ability amongst the DTB to challenge, rather than some sort of dictatorial coup.
23rd Jan 2020 09:23:50 
[164.lo.gg.ed] 
kt2
As I've said before, it's an inherent problem with our model and will remain so until we restructure. Cant expect a board of volunteer 'amateurs' (for want of a better word) to assure the proper running of a pro club.
Ah thanks Graham
23rd Jan 2020 08:10:07 
[94.lo.gg.ed] 
bluewomble75
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Blue Womble - Burton have a league game against Accrington this Saturday which was in the fixture list all along
23rd Jan 2020 08:02:45 
[86.lo.gg.ed] 
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Alan ; 👍
23rd Jan 2020 07:58:47 
[85.lo.gg.ed] 
henry potter
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Eating, drinking, breathing the club doesn't make one a good board member, but in Ivor not only does it help, it also comes over to outsiders as someone worthy of lending an ear to. He does engage with others, whereas others don't, nothing wrong with that btw, if their skillset don't warrant that. This episode is prime for all of us and the various boards to understand what brought us here, what we have to change and how we do so. Now isn't the time for scapegoating.
23rd Jan 2020 07:55:37 
[10.lo.gg.ed] 
Being involved at board level is a difficult position in as that we need to remember that doing what we believe is right for the club. But we cannot be expected to know what third parties are doing, want or expect and I believe that the various boards all had experienced degrees of these agencies saying one thing and meaning something else.
Can we release a version of the Spam song, replacing the word Spam with the word Bond, in honour of Terry Jones.....? “Lovely Bond, Wonderful Bond, Bond Bond Bond Bond.....”
23rd Jan 2020 07:55:24 
[81.lo.gg.ed] 
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A Win against Burton on Tuesday night under floodlights.....will do for me ..
23rd Jan 2020 07:49:08 
[92.lo.gg.ed] 
ninety third minute
I SUPPORT THE BOND
Cheers keefy and thanks for taking the question for what it was.
23rd Jan 2020 07:48:04 
[2.lo.gg.ed] 
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Nothing wrong with wanting to see the club properly financed. I see from the board minutes we are putting £1 - 1.4m provision for servicing debt. In salaries instead of debt servicing that gets you Dannie Bulman, Darius Charles, Lyle Taylor, Tom Elliot, Jake Reeves and Steve Seddon.
23rd Jan 2020 07:30:36 
[94.lo.gg.ed] 
Not everyone just wants to watch football in league 2. But for now the majority do.
Strange how we are not playing burton on Saturday as no Fa cup fixtures for us both. It would be a higher attendance on a Saturday as well
23rd Jan 2020 07:22:30 
[94.lo.gg.ed] 
bluewomble75
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Erik was almost a God for me, told him he deserves a statue, but reply was prefer Car Parking space ... that was day perhaps something changed ....park his car next to investors Roller? ...sad to see his hand go up for investors... Be wary of all powerful i guess ...
23rd Jan 2020 07:17:08 
[92.lo.gg.ed] 
ninety third minute
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TF - The only change that Erik made was Erik. More explicitly the threat of no Erik, implicit rather than stated ... the DT certainly have the power to make any changes they see fit, within a legal framework and subject to any restrictive actions.
23rd Jan 2020 02:06:38 
[82.lo.gg.ed] 
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Shared and seedrs !
23rd Jan 2020 00:47:07 
[143.lo.gg.ed] 
keefy
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Tf bought. Shared at the start, invested in Seeded and will buy a bond but do not see outside investment as the evil from a far off planet. Never really felt part of the fan owned model. Seemed to be the inner circle that run the club over the years, in fact back in the plough lane days volunteered a lot of time to the club even though different owners came and went! I have no fear for the future, my glass is always half full.
23rd Jan 2020 00:45:39 
[143.lo.gg.ed] 
keefy
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We need Ivor to stay on as many boards as possible because atm he eats drinks and sleeps our club unlike others I feel. He has been up against it regarding some decisions fighting a lone battle against less AFC WIMBLEDON bleeding members
22nd Jan 2020 23:54:16 
[85.lo.gg.ed] 
henry potter
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I’d love to hear Trebor’s view on OI’s post earlier which claimed the DTB has enormous power. From my perspective it seems they are powerless but maybe OI is right and it’s a capability thing. As I understood it Erik made changes early in his now tainted tenure which cut the DTB’s balls off and rendered them virtually impotent.
22nd Jan 2020 23:52:31 
[2.lo.gg.ed] 
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Bonds just gone up by 4p. Whilst cunting off the world, biggles has put his shoulder to the wheel 😜
22nd Jan 2020 23:52:21 
[2.lo.gg.ed] 
middle aged don
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Sorry to go back but this being allowed to be left soooo late by DTB still pisses the F””K out of me
22nd Jan 2020 23:45:58 
[85.lo.gg.ed] 
henry potter
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