The 50+1 is important as it will pay off a lot of the bonds. It will make us a more attractive purchase as we come with lower debt and shows we can pay stuff off. In the short term it will mean we won't have to pay the bonds due in a couple of years and will keep our heads above water.

I think to Timmy's point "we don't deserve fan ownership if we don't pay for it" the problem is that 71% of members want to sell to at least 50+1 but the articles mean the minority can veto that. So those 29% are the ones who need to step up and put the money in.

OI/Trigg - you may both be correct… I guess my leaning towards 50+1 rather than immediate full sellout is because I think maybe it’s something that might be more acceptable to a greater proportion of fans as a stepping stone, and that a little while after that stage the full sell would be the next acceptable step. Obviously I’m no expert in financials, and I’m only looking at things from a “how I think many fans would feel about different selling options” viewpoint (my own perception, not because I’ve done any sort of survey, not even among friends…). As usual, time will tell, but the main point appears to be that doing nothing isn’t really an option unless we are happy to let things continue to slide backwards (including our potential league position…).

Agreed re 50+1 unless there’s something I’m missing on how it would work and what would be needed/done to avoid ending up back in the same place in 2-3 years time. Happy to have it explained otherwise though.

If I thought I could trust the people running the club I might put more money in but the way the DTB act I would'nt trust them with my lunch money

I don't see what we get from selling to 50%+1. Unless someone is covering operating losses on an ongoing basis, the shares we're trying to sell are worth pennies, even lower than JG's valuations. So anyone buying them will demand a major say in how the club is run so that their investment isn't worthless in a year or two. In other words they will behave as if they were majority owners, so they might as well be.

Grant

Wrexham receive 18 million non repayable from the Welsh government. What are we doing wrong?

Sell up!

Agreed. People don’t deserve a fan owned club if they don’t pay for it. Poor old Doobs is putting in so much work and we can’t even get £20k from the owners. If I owned an expensive Ferrari but wouldnt put in the money for its upkeep I’d have to get rid of it

I’d put in a £1,000 donation to the club every season if it could be guaranteed that 2,000-3,000 others would do the same - unfortunately I’d guess that maybe a few hundred might do it, and that wouldn’t really help much… That’s why I’m in favour of selling up to the 50+1 model…

We had c30,000 people supporting us at Wembley. If those “owners” cant support a L1/2 club and dig deep then fan ownership is a deeply flawed model. If a club with our great story, great location and affluent fan base cant support fan owned I don’t think anyone can

While our governance is a mess, I don't think (of course I may be wrong) that, as a business, we are badly run, it's just that basically no club at our level is going to be profitable or sustainable without someone willing to support losses and that with fan ownership you don't have that person.

It can be more realistic if we get costs under control. Our wages have gone up from £4.1 million to £5.8 million in two years. That is an increase of 41%. What is that money being spent on? How much of that is going to players. Does the wording staff costs solely mean wages. There has to be more transparency. Some of the 700k increase does come to paying promotion bonuses

Fan ownership isn't sustainable. Somehow we need to make it so.

Not read the article but from what I know about Exeter’s situation is that fan ownership in and of itself isn’t unsustainable - you need a well-run club and trust and without that then you find yourself in the situations Exeter find themselves in.

Interesting article on the times website detailing Exeter's struggles and how they are in exactly the same position as we are. Fan ownership isn't sustainable

CW - didn't look much like 74 at Yeovil to me either but that's what they announced 🤣🤷🏻‍♂️

DO-that doesn’t count as at least 50 others who didn’t hitch arrived a bit late

13 at Stockport in 1978 ... including Dons Outlook.

Having watched the highlights today as I had to work yesterday, I have to say that Orsi showed sublime skill in the build up to Browne’s goal and proper striker’s instinct for his poachers goal. I would be delighted to be proved wrong about him and to see yesterday spark a triumphant run of form, leading us to automatic promotion

Only one for first half hour at Hull City one evening back in the 80s.

Mikey T-actually Yeovil was 34 as I counted them

Full members cup away at man city about 7 wimbledon fans one being my schoolmate who now supports millwall after we brought kingsmeadow

TS - EFL trophy