And plenty of volunteers being treated shoddily too as I’m sure you’re aware. Too much shouting down at this club and not enough open conversation.

And as for a long term sponsor being treated crappy, thats the same as some fans have along our journey by being priced out of coming.

Oh. We enjoyed The Damned United too. The fabrication bit passed us by!

No personal dig taken Trigger. I just think its easy to look from the outside and critique - its what we are all good at and I HEAVILY include me with that.

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True, Donial, and you wouldn't think it would suit the sponsors either.

Overnight flight Pads :) Watched The Damned United and enjoyed it. Then, as I always do for non-fiction movies, I looked it up afterwards. Complete fabrication from start to finish and the author of the book and the producers of the movie have been sued multiple times by people involved. Clough’s family refused invites to the premier as they had already stated that the book was a work of fiction - something wholly admitted by the author and producers.

There’s also the question that if the club think/know they can get a more lucrative sponsor than PSR who are willing to bastardise their brand (or have a coincidentally white and blue branding already) then there is still no reason to piss off a long standing sponsor and see money taken off the table. You offer the next best sponsorship available where the sponsor can keep what they consider to be valuable to them via the new deal.

Trig at 3:38 (?!!) - substitute 'country' for 'club' and it still works, sadly.

I do find the strict white and blue policy bizarre if I'm honest. Why would we want a monochromatic stadium.

As much as I personally dislike it football is more a business than a sport these days. In order to succeed we need to generate as much revenue as we can regardless of how we are owned. This is why I do not care whether our branding is blue and white or blue and yellow. If we get more money from using blue and white then it is illogical not to do so. It would also be hypocritical for people to moan about this at the same time as demanding we sell out for a better chance of success. There would be a genuine question is whether the money difference is substantive enough to make it worthwhile. It would also be interesting to see how the lounge access prices compares to similar clubs - are we high, low or average.

All the keeping quiet would be fine if we had an owner who took responsibility for the club (after charging the supporters as much as they can get away with). That is the cost of being bank rolled. Whilst we claim to be fan owned, the fans need to be kept in the loop and told why there is a policy of colour branding in the stadium and how the policy benefits us.

RK - some of our commercial offers were well under priced, and there had been no increase in 15 years or more.

What we're seeing now is the Club under Woodroof, under tough financial pressure, is this sort of deal where long-standing fans are sacrificed for better financial deals. IIRC it was last year that the blue & yellow club were told that to gain pre-match lounge access, they had to up their payments from £1000 to £3600.

Life lesson, don't mess with roofers or scaffs :-)

Donial - yes, I seem to remember that, but eventually came back.

Donial - apparently so. Scroll back, there's a post about it

Didn't Paul Strank have a hissy fit with the club before (post the move from Kingsmeadow I think?). Pulled all sponsorship etc but then returned.

Nothing from the club and speculation will rise. Will they ever learn?

If a long term sponsor has been treated crappy, im all for them speaking out.. why should the in crowd know all and the rest of us know nothing. Clubs been a clique for way too long.

PS has had a long standing connection with the club and has helped us out immensely over the years so it is natural people are going to be pissed off. I think the club does need to clarify. We aren't losing a pie stand here, we are losing a long standing six figure sponsorship deal. So just clarify either in public or in some other way that gets the message out (eg in a trust meeting).

Trigger - fully agree

Not a personal pop at you Stu but PS can talk to whoever he wants about whatever he wants. What has gone wrong with this club that they feel the need to control what everyone says and thinks these days? Tried to close this place down. Closed down ProBoards. Closed down Discord. Closed down the Twitter feed.

Why should they come out with an explanation Meadow? PS decided to go public on a business discussion.

In my opinion, the club needs to address Strank's accusation and clarify. What they can't do is remain silent and hope it all goes away. Thumb up the bum and the brain in neutral isn't great. Deal with it.