Is tennis the same? Andy Murray won 3 grand slams and has 2 Olympic gold medals. Zverev has just won his first grand slam at 29 but also has 2 Olympic golds.

Russell Martin takes charge of Leicester, bringing him back to L1 management where he has such pedigree as finishing 19th and 13th with the franchise scum.

CW - I’m not sure I’d want England shirts to have those Olympic stars at the World Cup - I’m in agreement with Trigg, it’s a bit embarrassing to pretend you’ve been World Champions 4 times when you haven’t…

Shouldn’t have a star for an Olympic win. Have some dignity, Uruguay.

A4e-given that GB( ok not England) won the Olympic football in 1900, 1908 and 1912 we could claim to have 4 stars too

No advantage to Scotland in playing for a draw, as if Preston's scenario is right, Scotland are already through. Better for them to go for the win and be guaranteed second place at least.

Interesting that Uruguay have 4 stars on their shirts - 2 for the World Cup wins, and 2 for their Olympic wins. That’s 4 times as many as England have - so annoying…

Preston - thanks, I see now - I wonder if Scotland and Morocco will just tap the ball back and forth to one another…

Yes, congrats to Pete on the new arrival!!

A4E- with 8 out of 12 3rd placed teams progressing, likelihood is that 2 points with a -1 goal difference may be enough. If so, expect loads more draws. A draw for Scotland against Morocco is good for both sides.

Welcome to Pete's greatniece. Happy days.

By my reckoning, there have been 15 WC games so far, and 8 have been draws - not sure how that compares with the usual pattern, but it just seems quite a high number of draws already?

Ft 2-2. A fair result and a very entertaining game.

2-2. Equaliser, in off the post. Still a good game. The commentator just called it the game of the WC so far.

2-1 NZ. Just with his second, 2 Wood assists.

Iran goal disallowed for offside in first half added time.

1-1.

A very exciting NZ/Iran game, just like an old fashioned end to end English league game. 1-0 NZ after some good pkay from Chris Wood, and Iran also hit the post. All thus before the first "hydration" break.

On the other side of the coin, RiP Richard Teale.

Can I waffle? Thanks. Today My great niece was born (not the first). I've been saving a bottle of single malt for the occasion, to share with my offspring (uncles both). One doesn't drink, wet his lips with the nectar, then disappeared, the other declined a second full glass on account of working tomorrow, but accepted when I told him to tell his boss to go fuck herself for once (reason supplied). Tell her the old man insisted, ha! Welcome to the world, little one.

Sorry - “good football matches” - I’m one for effective football which lends itself to a more direct style to game. Pass the ball around forever if you want to but I’d rather watch teams trying to score goals.

Wereth 11 betrayed by Belgian citizens albeit in a part of Belgium that was basically German and had been for a century or two. A very sad story from WWII and an even sadder indicator that humanity has not learned a single lesson from that war and maybe in fact has gone backwards since then.

Had a Belgian aunt, Auntie Esther, mad as a box of frogs.

I saw Emile Puttemans win a 3k race at Wembley in 1973. Leeds/Sunderland cup final build-up.

And she was a genuine war hero - a really impressive person