One thing that I just noticed is that this year sees the end of the old 5 year season ticket scheme (the club decided to stop allowing these to be extended back in 2020 and this year - 2023/4 - is the fourth season after that). The effect of that is that, even if the revenue from season tickets stays the same, all of those (like me) who have been running off their tickets will be back having to pay real money for next year onwards, which will help the club's cashflow.

James are playing in Kingston in August [Link] but the ticket prices are a bit steep for a 1-hour 'preview'-type show. It's not only football that has seen big hikes in ticket prices.

I didn't know that James had a new album out. Well it is at number one this week.

There eill be a ballot for our away league games at Bromley on boxing day

Some of the listed benefits for the £20 also look a bit dodgy as they ought to be included either in ST or DT membership, e.g. special data content, home game ticket priority, away game ticket priority (unless they have changed the ST T&Cs).

RK-49 years ago today you were watching your first love Epsom and Ewell in the Vase Final at Wembley

20 pounds of that are the benefits I think, which I guess we can opt out of if we don't think they are benefits.

And the article from our MD, says the full DT rate will be £50, concession £35 for non ST holders. So presumablt, if you buy seperately, you will now get charged these rates?

Advantage to the DTb 😉

RK - I would imagine so but really who can guess?

Are there VAT savings on doing it this ways that can be passed on? The only advantage I can see is the membership vote of any active renegade being diluted by the passive shoulder shrugging can't be arsed to find out if it is important membership that a blanket uptake is going generate.

Cared more

Silko, i think i cared about the ST prices back then than i do now ....

OI, won't the DT add-on reflect what pricing band (eg concession) you are? So, if so, you're add on would be £15, not £30

Remember when football was all about having a few beers and a laugh and not giving a fuck about the season tickets going up? Of course we were kicking arse in the Prem then which made it easier.

Yes, Minister.

You might very well think that, I couldn't ...

Not as simple as giving the money to the club to pay the costs of...

Trigger - the DT needs more money so that it can give it back to the club to help pay the costs of the womens team and the academy.

70% return on the seat resale scheme is much more sensible _ it will be worth grappling with the resale system for that. Perhaps a good sign that the new MD is more clued up on commercial matters than the previous incumbents. I thought that his piece was actually well written as well - good to have someone in that role who can communicate clearly without a lot of jargon and meaningless management speak.

Does it really though Sav? They are getting extra money on some season tickets but presumably are losing the money that season ticket holders currently pay for DT membership. Given inflationary pressures I'm not sure that the two entities combined won't be worse off in real terms.

Why does the DT need more money? Can I give my money to the club instead?

OI - We're told we need a lot more money for the playing budget and running costs, but of the 10% increase, most of that is eaten up by paying for the bundled DT membership fees (assuming £30 gets transferred) - which then goes to the academy and women's teams not the playing budget or running costs. I guess I was expecting something like 10% increase plus £30 membership fee.

Sav - the purpose is to make more money for the DT so I guess the club give money to the DT to help pay for the women which means giving money to the club to help pay the womens team costs. That makes a lot of sense. I'm not sure what happens to my money after I opt out, I presume it stays with the club.

10% increase is, I’d say, moderate rather than “massive”. Not sure why some will pay more whilst others are frozen for early birds - is it because those are the least popular areas so they want to see if they can fill them up a bit more?