Assuming that was all you were wearing Spit, i guess the positioning of said poppy was key

Good to see the cheam wetherspoons hasn't chucked me out this morning for wearing a poppy

With this deal , we have a much better chance of championship football in 5 years than the trust the process 5 years:-) usual facebook posters are shitting the bed:-)

Tonight on BBC1. I'd watch it, but I'd be in bits about 5 minutes in. [Link]

and not owning their own ground held B&H back for years - look at them now ...

John Galt is Omar Mir and I claim my £5

Held Palace back for years as well - when Noades owned the ground and a succession of others owned the rest

Thank you, John.

Galty - go ask Charlton how not owing their own ground is going - it is stifling any real investment in the club

The only examples I can think of where football clubs don't own their own ground and it working long term is where the government or local authority paid for or own the stadium. Man City, West Ham and Crawley for example in this country. Tax payers money spent for the good of the community or something like that.

JtD, thanks for sharing, thats a nice obit.

Excellent obituary 👏

Obit of Mikey T in the Times [Link]

Juventus built their own ground after sharing the municipal stadium with Torino for yonks

Galty demonstrates that he fails to understand British football with a few comments overnight.

I think that Italian clubs not owning their stadia is a historical fact, not their choice, and is widely seen as a problem for them, seriously limiting their income- generating potential.

6MDM: "Owning your own stadium is 100% the most important thing a football club can do". I'm not sure that Inter & AC Milan, Roma & Lazio and Genoa & Sampdoria fans would agree. They clearly have their own identities and fierce rivalries whilst sharing the costs. The problem with owning ones own stadium is that one has an incredibly expensive asset that only effectively gets used 25 times a year. There is a price to pay for that luxury - one which most fans appear unwilling or unable to pay - which is presumably a large reason why most clubs lose money even if the players were volunteers.

I think Sheridans Trigs

Who is our solicitor by the way what firm do they work for?

It's quite a long time ago now that I heard a Manc Man U fan say on Radio 5 that if they were going to treat the supporters like extras in a film *they* ought to pay *them*.

NickD nails it and for anyone who watched Sunderland v Leeds this afternoon or any Arsenal game ever you know that increased expense for football fans does not equal increased quality.

As it stands, we do at least have a football club that represents Wimbledon and the community of Wimbledon. I can not take anyone seriously if they genuinely think any Prem club represents the city or town in which they nominally host home fixtures.

Money was always integral to football, but at some point - the obvious answer being 1992 but I think Abramovich was probably the tipping point - it became football's raison d'être. Art imitates life unfortunately and football is just symptomatic of a system that prioritises wealth and status over history, tradition, and culture. So we're left with a Premier League that is base and shallow in such a way that is already filtering down to the second tier.

Yeah shame sam didn't walk away in the early 80s, we might still be at old plough lane,but might not of had the golden era .can see why galty might see sam as a successful period in the clubs life

Football isn’t all about money but it is increasingly all about money. What we did back in the 80s and 90s was amazing and will never be done again. Just look at how Man Utd are proving that out by doing even worse than they did back then.