Re Debentures - I have 2 documents - Proposed Debenture Scheme Q&A June 2020 - Solutions For season 20/21 we want your views June 2020 - I then bought a debenture for £600 - I never received any document from the club to confirm my purchase despite requesting same. I now live near Eastbourne and only intend to attend 6 home games/ season. I'm now well into my 8th decade and travelling on the rattlers is not pleasant. One never knows the weather 3 weeks in advance. Sometimes a fixture is amended thanks to TV or cup games. There are several variables which help me decide whether to come or not. I think my debenture started in 20-21 which was eventually a 'free' season thanks for covid. Therefore my debenture ends after season 20-30-31.

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OI - wasn't my intention to suggest that and don't disagree with your point.

RK - would love to see their figures on how many debenture seats actually remain unsold because the three next to me are resold every game they aren't being used by the holders. So not sure it will be that much extra money per match in reality. On 2) I don't want to speak for all debenture holders but I for one am so thoroughly fucked off the prospect of me giving the club even more money is a very distant one at present.

Obviously as we all know we beat Woodford 4-0 in 2002 in our first season, and won 5-2 there in 1953 as Wimbledon

Undoubtedly the big cup news of the week was Erith & Belvedere beating Hackney Wick 4-3 in their London Senior Cup first round tie. It's now Woodford Town v Erith & Belvedere in round 2, with the winners hosting ourselves in the last 16.

Interesting way you put it about supporting the team nowadays and not so much the club. I totally agree and I guess we have to accept that the newer fans that have started supporting us since moving to PL are in the same boat.

The move to bring forward the deadline for debenture holders will generate income in two ways: 1) enable more seats to be sold & 2) move debenture holders to buy STs in future years

Bush - you seem to be thinking I'm saying this is a lousy idea, it may well be but I don't have an opinion because I don't have the facts. My complaint is how hard it is to get facts from people.

A 10 day point could allow sellers and buyers the scope of two forthcoming weekends to get themselves sorted if demand is exceeding supply, probably all about the club maximising further income in the guise of 'come together'. it's not the same club as 5, 10, 15, 20 years ago. for me, i have been supporting the team and less so the club over the past seasons as i am continuously dismayed with the club-supporter/supporter-club relationship, especially towards the legacy supporters, volunteers and those priced-out.

Trigs - sadly not - there is a link in it called "DEBENTURES AND NON REFUNABLE SEASON TICKET EXPLAINED " but if you click it it goes to a WAWF - page under construction.

OI - I don't know the number of released debenture seats (sure the club will) but I do know it's a lot. Have a look at what's available next Thursday and then again next Friday. Will be next to nothing on Thursday and then several hundred (incl. lots together) on the Friday after the debenture seats are released.

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Did anyone locate the T&C under which the debentures were issued? I would hope that they were at least emailed to every debenture purchaser at the time, so someone must still have them.

Presumably if there is a new catering contract in the following set of accounts, the food vans will only be one component in the changes to revenue and profit from catering.

TF, these accounts are for y/e 30 June 2025, so won't show the effect of those changes

Bush - not stating anything is easy, just that the people who contributed a lot of money in 2020/21 deserve to be treated as adults who can look at and comment on a problem, not a group to be told that those who know better have thought about it and decided to alter their entitlements. The number of debentures not associated with season tickets is probably quite low so there may not be an enormous outcry but then again how many tickets actually get released (that is even simpler data to provide)?

Would be interesting to see if we have increased profitability from the decisions made around the street food vendors.

The resale of STs system needs to be looked at as well. I have tried to use it a few times this season and was unable to do so. I appreciate that the matches had not sold out at that stage but why can't I simply put my ticket into a "basket" for later sale if needed? The coding for this can't be that difficult.

RE OTD seem to recall Leeds had played a European game in Moscow 3 days before so we got them just at the right time

OI - get that but also see how it's complicated. Take the Wigan game. Based on what's available that's pretty much sold out now. But it's not really sold out as loads more tickets will become available 8 days before the game. I can see why appearing as effectively sold out when in reality it's nowhere near sold out is challenging (albeit that's down to the policy the club set).

A question for mobile phone gurus. My wife has recently had issues where installed apps are not showing on the home screen. She has a Samsung S10e.

Where are JAW & Lurker?

TS, sounds like we need some cash

Along the same lines, I had a 5YST from season 2 but I was not allowed to renew it once we moved to NPL. Now they are on offer again.